In this episode, Joe and Toby take a deep dive into SZA's ethereal track "Saturn," unpacking its emotional resonance, poetic lyrics, and bold approach to rhythm and structure. They explore how SZA's transparency about mental health reflects a generational shift, discuss the evolution of R&B through comparisons to past artists, and examine how her collaborations and artistic growth have carved out a unique space in the industry. Along the way, the duo weaves in fascinating connections between music, cultural trends, and even the passion of debating basketball legends, all while celebrating SZA's role in shaping the future of R&B.